Camelot 30K has ratings and 29 reviews. David said: It’s been a while since I read a hard SF book. I had almost forgotten how much I enjoy them. Th. Camelot 30K By Robert L. Forward – FictionDB. Cover art, synopsis, sequels, reviews, awards, publishing history, genres, and time period. Camelot 30K [Robert L. Forward] on *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. When humankind discovers intelligent life in the Oort Cloud, the first.
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To ask other readers questions about Camelot 30Kplease sign up. Lists with This Book. Oct 13, David rated it liked it. It’s been a while since I read a “hard SF” book.
I had almost forgotten how much I enjoy them. There’s usually at least one clever idea buried somewhere inside which makes the reading worthwhile. Camelot doesn’t have great characters though I’ve certainly read worse and it doesn’t have dazzling writing. The plot is fairly thin, as well. But I find that if I read camelt book like this quickly enough, I can get enough interesting elements out of cameloh to keep my interest up.
And that’s how it went. I kept It’s been a while since I read a “hard SF” book. I kept the pace up until the conclusion, which I found satisfying. So, with that in mind, I give Camelot a solid three-star “liked it” rating.
Mar 29, T. This is a hard scifi book for those who love lots of physics thrown in with their plot and characters. This story about crawfish-like aliens living near absolute zero temps on an ice moon out past Neptune is highly inventive, entertaining and well done in its world building for the aliens.
The cable whip transport system for reaching the outer solar system without using a moon’s worth of fuel is a nice came,ot detail. Recommended for those who enjoy heavy loads of science with their alien Camellt This is a hard scifi book for those who love lots of physics thrown in with their plot and characters.
Camelot 30k : Robert L. Forward :
Recommended for those who enjoy heavy loads of science with their alien 330k Contact stories. Back in the old days, the “Hard SciFi” subgenre was dominated by authors that took the effort to get the physics correct.
The other sciences were represented much less often, and it is often amusing when one goes back to those old books at how ludicrous the sociology was, for example.
Robert Forward’s Camelot 30K is largely a throwback to those times. The likelihood that Forward was a professional physicist will occur to even the least thoughtful reader within a few pages, and the conviction will Back in the old days, the “Hard SciFi” subgenre was dominated by authors that took the effort to get the physics correct.
The likelihood that Forward was a professional physicist will occur to even the least thoughtful reader within a few pages, and the conviction will be ironclad within the first two dozen. It is nice that the physics gets cakelot affectionate attention, but unfortunately it does burden the prose somewhat. The alien chemistry is analogous to Terran organic 30i with fluorine substituting for carbon. That’s fine, but by the end of the book an attentive chemist will know precisely how to build an alien out of spare ingredients lying around the lab, which is a bit TMI for the rest of us.
The cleverest aspect of the novel is the ingenious use of radioactive isotopes in the aliens’ world. Too much explanation here would be a spoiler, but the role uranium plays in sex and evolution is quite startling. But, again, the physicist overwhelms the story with detail and precision.
The sociology of the alien culture is, however, pretty tedious. Not strictly implausible, but it has the feel of something that was dashed out in rough form in camelog paragraph or two as adequate to carry the story forward. And for the author, “the story” isn’t about the interactions unfolding between and among the aliens and the humans making first-contact, but the chance to demonstrate his very imaginative physics to its quite astonishing climax.
Meanwhile, the first-contact part of the story doesn’t get any share of imagination.
Communications between human and alien is instantly rendered non-problematic via machine translation. The only difficulties arise on those very rare occasions when words have no semantic equivalent, yet somehow the automatic translation provides to the aliens — who don’t even vocalize — a phonetic version of the untranslatable English word: The characters are cardboard cutouts, but human and alien.
Nothing new in scifi, but this was written in the mid-nineties long after the field had been invigorated with fresh ideas. Forward’s clever ideas in this book would have been better as an essay, perhaps somewhat akin to Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex” a must-see on YouTubealthough much less amusing.
I was just read a long list of descriptors for poor sci-fi writing, and it turns out what Forward delivered here is a “Steam-Grommet Factory”. Dec 24, Dmadden rated it did not like it. This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers. To view it, click here. Praise from Vinge and Bear on the cover lured me into this mess.
Some of his other stuff I’ve considered as interesting stinkbombs. For this one, I’ll have to drop the ‘interesting’. If you see this book around pick it up and skip to the appendices and look at the illustration of the ‘Center o’Camalor’ complete with the Tower o’Queen, the Park o’Pleasure etc next to the cross-section of the thermonuclear bomb. Now imagine your own cute story about how little creature Praise from Vinge and Bear on the cover lured me into this mess.
Now imagine your own cute story about how little creatures could come to live in a bomb. Don’t write any of it down.
I’m going to have to upgrade some of my other one-star authors. I need more room on the bottom. Feb 18, Morgan McGuire rated it did not like it.
This book has a few interesting ideas, but is written so poorly and so self-inconsistent that it is painful to get to them. Get ready for a race with permanent memory that also takes notes to avoid forgetting things, bed-hopping scientists who look up basic facts in an encyclopedia, idiot explorers, and telepresence robots used to manipulate the controls inside of miniature cars. It begins with a sentence about how “some comets are comets”. Dec 28, Lucas rated it liked it Shelves: The words ‘Camelot 30k’ conjurs up images of cyber-knights with laser swords astride chromed robot horses serialized in Heavy Metal magazine which is not at all what this book is about.
The opening info-dump is clunky and the rest is somewhat slow, but the spectacular ending makes up for it. Alien world building isn’t my favorite genre but the hard science approach makes the Kerack species compelling. Apr 15, Ben rated it really liked it.
While the writing style, plot development, and characterization would get Camelot 30K two, maybe three stars, the pure science fiction creativity, and really awesome last 60 pages or so, make this a solid 4 star review. Forward writes for the ideas just like his Dragon’s Eggbut he writes with ideas so thoroughly I’m willing to, despite myself, give this a high rating. Sep 07, A. Jandia rated it really liked it.
Camelot 30K by Robert L Forward
This is a “cute” book. I think I would recommend it for a younger audience. I think the bad reviews lend to adults, like me, buying the book and thinking it would be hardcore sci-fi and then finding out how cute and non technical the book really is. Bottom line, if you have young kids or so this ccamelot a nice book to introduce them to the genre of sci-fi.
Jan 02, Craig rated it it was ok. Plot was quite slow-moving for first half of book. But the scientific point of the book, slowly unveiled in the last half, is pretty darn impressive. As the NY Times noted in its review, this is an intriguing intellectual puzzle.
Oct 15, Jose Moa rated it liked it Shelves: Life and inteligence fluorocarbonate based at 30kelvin degrees in the kuiper belt,the end is a bit forced. Feb 19, William Haloupek rated it really liked it. A great book by a real scientist. This book has a lot of “cool” ideas, and it is worth reading just for that. Forward has never been very good with characters. I don’t know what’s wrong with them. Mar 09, Clemens Lode rated it it was amazing.
What is the mystery behind all this? Desgraciadamente, la novela que nos ocupa hoy tiene un problema importante, y ese no es otro que el tiempo que se toma para meternos en materia. Un crescendo muy bien llevado que ayuda a olvidar el mal sabor de boca inicial y que te acaba dejando satisfecho. El problema de la Cifi Hard es precisamente ese: Vamos, para el lector de “andar por casa”.